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    July 11, 2006

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    SALTY D

    DON'T FORGET THE HARLEY WAVE.
    P.S. BLAUGRA THINKS IT'S COOL WHEN SHE GET'S TO DO IT TOO.

    Tom Guarriello

    Salt...if you and Blaug read Kathy's post and comments thereto, you'll see that Hog afficianodos (is that phrase OK?) rank very high on The Nod scale.

    Kristin

    I enjoyed the Jeep Wrangler wave too. So sad that Liberty owners don't do it.

    I wonder if dogs give each other the nod when they have their poop bags tied to their leashes. That would probably be a different kind of nod; the get this sh#t off my back nod - I digress...

    Tom Guarriello

    Yes, the Wrangler wave/nod...I remember that.

    I love the dog nod idea...but the poop bag thing is overthinkin' it a bit!

    Steve Portigal

    The nod is a proxy for an actual conversation. I might want to stop someone and say "hey how d'ya like your D50" (that's my camera). The acknowledgement that you have a similar item lubricates that conversation-with-a-stranger just a bit. But even if you don't have the conversation, the visual acknowledgement is just as good, isn't it?

    Tom Guarriello

    Yes, in fact I think the visual acknowledgement proxy is often all we want, just that affirmation of our identity similarities.

    Marie Rao

    You will be very interested to know that The Nod is not something that women do. And we have many occassions to do so. For example, if I am walking down the street with a white Birken bag on my arm and another woman is walking toward me carrying said bag, she will not Nod, nor will I. Same goes for same dress, shoe, sweater, camera, belt, necklace etc. Women just don't Nod.
    Even pulled up at a stop light in the same cars. Never has happened to me, and never will.

    Tom Guarriello

    So, this is interesting, Marie. Some men also do not Nod or receive Nods.

    Do we send "Nod/NoNod" signals to one another?

    I've recently been watching Cesar Millan ("The Dog Whisperer") and been fascinated by the depth of his understanding of canine language of all kinds. Just like dogs sense of another's "sociability," I bet there's a similar mechanism for humans.

    Maybe some form of The Nod only takes place internally for some of us and at different times. It'd be interesting to understand the "when/when not" of The Nod.

    I know evaluation of the material expressions of identity takes place among women ("that loser's carrying the same Birken as me!!") but its expression can take lots of different forms.

    Thanks for the comment.

    Marie Rao

    Lots of different forms, I agree, but NO NODS.

    blaugra

    So, Biker Salty D. and I talk about the nod/wave thing a lot and I'm thinking now about women using/not using the nod/wave.

    Harley to Harley riders on the road get waves -- except when you're at a rally then you have to contain yourself because you're just like everyone else.

    Bike passengers usually don't wave. Most bike passengers are women, "along for the ride". And I've never seen a chick on her own hog wave at us. Huh.

    I try out the wave/nod but it doesn't feel right. When in my car driving, with a Harley or any biker on my tail or passing me, I nod. As if to say, "I'm in my cage but I'm in your club and I understand your road rules, so I'm not really an outsider even if I look like one."

    The rider usually doesn't give a sh*t because the nod of recognition is all about authenticity. Intentions don't matter - either you're riding a harley at that moment or you're not. You can be a newbie rider, or a non-Harley rider, you'll still get connected within the bike community. They aren't as exclusive as one may think, as long as you're on two wheels with a motor.

    But you have to ride your bike to an event to be credible. Otherwise, without a bike at a rally, or a name designer's garment at a fashion show, without a tattoo at a rockabilly show, you lack cred.

    You have to bring it, don't sing it.

    My little story just proves your points. Thanks for a provocative post that brought some excellent work recess time!

    Lisa Mirchin

    Marie and I can both nod to this...
    we don't nod!

    Tom Guarriello

    This nodding thing is getting interesting. In "The Devil Wears Prada," the Anna Wintour character's greatest compliment to a designer's work was a nod...well, two nods, actually.

    Ollie Shilling

    I'm a woman

    I ride a big motorcycle

    I ALWAYS nod!

    Heather

    Where I live and ride anyone on a bike can give you the 'nod' or 'wave' if you're on one, too. It's not exclusive to Harleys (I ride a Kowie Super Sherpa 250 Enduro). It's kind of fun.

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